Phaneuf on the Move?

[Terry]

Pronger for Phaneuf? I wouldn't doubt it.

[staze]

The Flames are in a tail-spin, changes will be made. I think Phaneuf will be heavily shopped for a scoring forward.

[The Coppernian One]

Philly isn't going to trade Pronger for Phaneuf. Pronger is a better Dman with a lower cap hit. They also have Coburn in there as a young Dman. Philly does seem to make a decent trade partner though.

Larry Brooks (who is an idiot) is writing about Phaneuf heading to the Rangers. This will not happen although I would like to see him and Sean Avery on the same team.

[Smyth94]

i think more of less it could be phaneuf for carter

[The Coppernian One]

Carter was kind of what I was thinking too, but it doesn't make sense for Philly. In fact, the more I think about it the less sense Philly makes as a trading partner (for Phaneuf). With Timonen, Pronger and Coburn, the addition of Phaneuf's 6.5 million cap hit would have to mean one of Pronger or Timonen going the other way. Philly won't trade Pronger for Phaneuf and Calgary won't take Timonen for him - so this doesn't work. Philly can't add 6.5 million to their back end with Pronger and Timonen still there, which would be the case if they traded forward depth. Calgary can't take on a whole lot of salary nor can Philly. If this weren't the case then I think they would make decent partners.

[Terry]

I mentioned Pronger because the Flyers are stuck with his cap hit until the contract ends or they move him. Seriously, Phaneuf's contract is too rich and, unless your GM is Pierre McGuire, he's going to be more of a liability for anyone. I'm just wondering where else his attitude can fit in. I won't say he won't be moved. Sutter does have a knack for finding a team to take his problem players off his hands.

[jayman74]

Jan 22, 2010 1:54:23 GMT -5 The Coppernian One said:

Jan 21, 2010 11:06:48 GMT -5 @jayman74 said:

I was reading some amusing comments on TSN after Calgary's 9-1 loss to SJ earlier this week. Seems like lots of Phlegms fans actually do want Phaneuf gone.

I lurk a flames board (it's okay, I shower and sanitize immediately after) and things are getting funny. For many, the love affairs with Phaneuf, Regehr and Sarich are over. Haven't seen too many "thank god we have Sutter" comments lately.

I signed up for the Flames board when I lived in Calgary. I was banned after like 2 posts.

Hi, my name is....BANNED!!

[Ronald Ohlander]

Traded to Toronto. Multi-player deal.

tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308469

[jayman74]

That's the kind of deal I'd love to see us make. Ditch a high salary for 3 or 4 lower ones. Good trade for Calgary I'd say. They got 4 NHL players for 2 and a prospect. This seemed inevitable once they signed JBo.

[Terry]

People are saying that the cows got robbed. Talk is that none of the players they got are bonafied first liners. Plus they gained salary so no looking for any other players. But I thought Sutter would find someone for Phaneuf's contract. I also wonder if it was Elisha Cuthbert who wanted out of Calgary.

[Ronald Ohlander]

If they don't want Stajan, send him to Edmonton.

[staze]

Without looking at future cap implications and who is a UFA at the end of this season, I like this deal for the Flames. Where there is smoke there is fire, Phaneuf was a dressing room problem. Calgary needs offense, this deal will give them more offensive depth and another C-man to audition with Iggy. This has to be setting up a Kaberle deal as the Leafs are now D-heavy. Stajan does well in Calgary, he would be an idiot not to re-sign and play with Iggy for a few more years.

[Ryan]

Decent trade for the Flames. I think Phaneuf can be a good player, so I think Toronto wins in this regard since they likely got the best player.

Calgary addressed their need of goal-scoring...but again, it seems to me that they got more quantity than quality. Stajan and Hagman are good players, but how much of a difference do they really make? One would think that when you're dealing a guy like Phaneuf and Keith Aulie (surprised they included him), you should be targeting perhaps a bigger fish; someone that will be a difference maker up front, much like Phaneuf can be on the blueline.

We won't really see the benefits or drawbacks of such a deal until we see them on their respective teams. Too early to tell, IMO.

But with a predictive mind, I'll say that Toronto is the early winner.

[The Coppernian One]

There are a lot of people in Calgary that are pretty upset about this deal (I was there today so listened to the Fan960 for several hours).

I don't think it's a bad deal for the Flames. Their back end suffers from on offensive capacity and may improve slightly defensively. They also get some depth scoring up front and if Stajan clicks with Iginla look out (although this is a double-edged sword because the more he clicks the more money he'll be able to get).

The gamble here is that the only guy under contract at the end of the season is Hagman. Mayers and Stajan are UFAs and White is RFA (I beleive). I don't think you can look at this trade without factoring that in, as come July we may find that the deal was Phaneuf for Hagman. I don't think it will be, but there's the chance.

I don't think this trade is near as bad as many in Calgary think it is.

[jayman74]

www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=308500

Mackenzie's blog over at TSN is saying the Flames won the deal for getting the best player...Ian White.

I think they won the trade simply for having more servicable NHler's, even if they are spare part 2nd/3rd liners. Phanuef will probably really help Toronto too, but one man can't do it all himself.

If anything these deals are showing high priced salaries can be moved. (Phaneuf/Giggy)