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Post by worththeweight39 on Mar 2, 2007 11:48:01 GMT -5
Did anyone read the article of him in the Edmonton Sun the other day? Here is the link if you haven't: www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/Oilers/2007/02/28/3676198-sun.htmland here's the reply from MacT: www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/Oilers/2007/02/28/3676197-sun.htmlI 100% agree with Big George. And last night's game proved it all over again. So far this season, Boogarrd has taken Hemsky, Smid, and Reasoner out of games with injuries so far. Did you see last night how Staios and Torres went after him? What a joke! He still ran Smid hard at the end of the game a few times. Laraque is right. Lowe said that our team had too much offensive depth to have Laraque on this team? Wow. We have had so many 4th liners in and our of the line up playing 4-5 minutes a game, so please tell me why one of those guys couldn't be Laraque? I know it's easy to be negative as an Oilers fan right now, but this is an absolute joke. Oh, and don't tell me that Zack the human punching bag Stortini is our new enforcer. I think Georges is completely right. Your thoughts? |
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Post by nick39 on Mar 2, 2007 11:54:33 GMT -5
laraque didnt do what he was here to do... last year players were running at hemsky and smyth yet laraque did nothing...
As ive stated in the past, I have no problem with laraque as long as he is enforcing and hitting.. he didnt do either, so what is the point in having him in the lineup.
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Post by BCNB on Mar 2, 2007 14:36:03 GMT -5
The hits that have hurt our players have been clean, its not that the tough guys are running our players intentionally to hurt them.
Georges has a lot of nerve to spew off what he did. Not only did he not do shit when he was an Oiler, obvioulsy Phoenix didnt want him either. So what if Pittsburgh wants him? Im sure he will get his 2-4 mins a game. A complete waste IMO.
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Post by chaytercon1 on Mar 2, 2007 14:36:08 GMT -5
He was a bum here last season. Figured that because he was a fan favourite that he wouldnt ever leave. I think the organization has shown players on this team that think they are bigger then the team what the need to be shown. Their BS wont be taken lightly.
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Post by The Coppernian One on Mar 2, 2007 17:28:39 GMT -5
Laraque's comments are bullshit. He didn't do fuck all here the past couple of seasons in the hitting and fighting department and if you take a close look at his latter fights many were glorified hugging matches before he slammed the guy to the ice (which was still cool by the way). Would Laraque stop Boulton from hitting Pisani? No. Would Laraque stop Boogaard from trying to run skilled guys? No. Anyone who thinks some of these enforcers are scared of other enforcers is kidding themselves. Laraque got the better of Boogaard a couple of times, but I seem to recall Boogaard got the better of him once. Our guys were getting run last season and nothing happened. Guys are going to throw those hits regardless of whether or not Laraque was in the line-up. I thing the Oilers have better ways to spend over a million dollars.
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Post by nick39 on Mar 2, 2007 17:43:26 GMT -5
yeah like use 100,000 of it and get smytty back ...
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Post by Ronald Ohlander on Mar 2, 2007 18:11:53 GMT -5
Laraque's comments are bullshit. He didn't do fuck all here the past couple of seasons in the hitting and fighting department and if you take a close look at his latter fights many were glorified hugging matches before he slammed the guy to the ice (which was still cool by the way). Would Laraque stop Boulton from hitting Pisani? No. Would Laraque stop Boogaard from trying to run skilled guys? No. Anyone who thinks some of these enforcers are scared of other enforcers is kidding themselves. Laraque got the better of Boogaard a couple of times, but I seem to recall Boogaard got the better of him once. Our guys were getting run last season and nothing happened. Guys are going to throw those hits regardless of whether or not Laraque was in the line-up. I thing the Oilers have better ways to spend over a million dollars. the thing is tho, a lot of guys would have thought differently i'm sure if they knew laraque was there. not that they're afraid of him, but if there was a really bad hit like the ones we've been getting lately (albeit clean ones) laraque would have done something. I've thought letting him go was a mistake from the start, and I agree with him that we probably wouldn't have lost so many guys to concussions and such if he were still in the lineup. |
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Post by nick39 on Mar 2, 2007 18:25:30 GMT -5
im with copper... wouldnt of mattered if he was here or not.. he isnt semenko.
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Post by Fisherman93 on Mar 2, 2007 18:30:04 GMT -5
I think just his presence would make guys think twice...
then it means guys like torres and staois and moreau aren't having to do dirty work... or getting injured trying to settle the score.
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Post by worththeweight39 on Mar 2, 2007 18:38:42 GMT -5
i agree with Jkari...if laraque was in the lineup i think guys would be thinkin twice about continually running our guys. Heck...Ethan Moreau has missed this whole season cuz he was the one who had to stand up for Stoll vs. Detroit....mind you Ethan would do that regardless.
Last night it really hit me...seeing torres and staios trying to go after Boogarrd after he took Reasoner out. What a joke. Late in the game he crushed Smid again, so I don't think the message from Torres and Staios really got to him.
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Post by BCNB on Mar 2, 2007 19:54:01 GMT -5
Like it was mentioned before, our players were getting hit hard last season when Laraque WAS in the lineup. For George to say that the injuries in Edmonton are because he isnt here is just plain stupid. He is still bitter that we didnt resign him before this season started.
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Post by The Coppernian One on Mar 2, 2007 20:41:14 GMT -5
I agree with BCNB. Fighting Laraque wouldn't have stopped Boogaard from making the hit again. Also, Moreau didn't get hurt standing up for Stoll or getting even. It was obvious that the injury was pre-exisitng and just needed a catalyst. If he didn't get it attempting to fight it would have happened throwing a hit or taking a shot. He didn't get the injury doing the job Laraque would have done. The hits are still going to get thrown. You want to do something about it? When was the last time we hit one of their stars? Or tried to play the physical brand of the game we're good at?
Boogaard wouldn't think twice about making those hits. Pahlson won't fight Laraque so he really doesn't have anthing to lose driving Stoll into the boards from behind. Cooke will still be a dink and Boulton or Sutton will still do what they do. Having Laraque in there wouldn't have stopped the hits on Pisani or Gilbert.
The solution is for guys to start using their heads to play the game and play the physical brand that we can. Start hitting them and let them react to us.
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Post by Ronald Ohlander on Mar 2, 2007 23:18:13 GMT -5
No one can say for sure if Laraque would have, or wouldn't have, prevented the injuries.
But how many injuries did we have last year, compared to this year?
And like wtw said, obviously torres and Staois weren't sending a message out to Boogard the way that Laraque I'm sure would have.
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Post by herbs on Mar 3, 2007 5:43:51 GMT -5
Laraque didn't do shit when he was here, no reason why he'd do it now, what we should do is paste the other team's better players to the boards/ice.
Criteria for a successful enforcer:
1. Actually wants to fight.
2.Stick up for their teammates at any time.
3.Doesn't think that their primary job is to score goals.
So tell me, does Georges come in under these 3 criteria?
NO.
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Post by chaytercon1 on Mar 3, 2007 11:18:30 GMT -5
I think this is a result of the Smyth trade. Everyone is trying to pick apart Lowe and everything he has or hasnt done this season. Next up, threads about whether or not the Pronger trade was decent. After that it will be letting Spacek go. Maybe we could pick apart his hair style as well, maybe the colour of tie he wears.
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